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blobcatlaugh i love it, Twitch has an "Ad Issue", they lost supposedly about 70% of the Ads due to the companies not supporting what streamers do (probably because of the Middle East conflict).
Leading to unrelated streamers are angry against Twitch because they lost often more than 70% of their Ad revenue.
For Users it has benefits, way less Ads than before if you watch twitch streams
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@Jain half decent people: blobcatthumbsup having peace and not giving billions for genocides
businesses: neofox_bottom no
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@icedquinn Thats what it looks like from the point of view of certain streamers yes. The other point of view is that twitch has an antisemitic issue and thats the consequence. And the third Point of view are now the unrelated people who depend on that money and get fucked over
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@Jain This is exactly why need to diversify your revenue as a streamer. You will get fucked over by ads one day or another.
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@Jain i think we should deport the people who want to criminalize criticising israel... to israel.
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@icedquinn This is a populist and harmful solution to a complicated problem for which there is no solution
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@stefan oh i hate Ads, they shouldnt depend on it at all
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@Jain populist? no.
classical imperialist
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@Jain traditional american populists were like socialist farmers they mostly just wanted freedom from banking credit empires (which they failed to achieve, rip)

(i've been finishing up The Populist Moment, a book about actual american populism)
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@icedquinn The conflict is more complex and breaking it down to "Israel is to blame" does not do justice to the conflict at all. I see that as populism, definitely
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@icedquinn @Jain twitch deserves this because one of their coddled streamers was the physical embodiment of "if they were white talking about other groups like this they would be gone in a microsecond" all they had to do was enforce their tos consistently
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@sun @Jain honestly i would respect amazon slightly more if they were like fuck you our streamers can say whatever they want if its not illegal
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@icedquinn @sun i mean thats what happened, they could say everything but the consequence is now that they lost Ad Partner
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@Jain you do realize the current crop of so-called populists are typically in favor of shielding israel from criticism and infinite money for them to continue their war right
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@icedquinn @Jain i interpreted what you said to be less about so;ving the middle east problem and more bout fixing the people in the usa who don't believe in free speech problem
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@sun @Jain someblob was posting about how they gave them some billions of money to blow up more hospitals but the hurricane victims in the USA got like 400$

if a feudal lord got caught doing this they would be so goddamn dead
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@icedquinn @sun thats also very populistic since it is well known that hamas use them as protection. Even organizations who are against what israel does, akknowledge that
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@icedquinn @Jain I can hear the cognitive dissonance setting in
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@s8n @icedquinn blobcatgoogly on certain things i dont mind if people not agreeing with me... quinn should know that
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