I really want to get into some games that are Gacha games but it feels like my mind has set up a blocker for them and I just can't get to enjoy them.

Zenless Zone Zero is a nice game, the story, the design, entire vibe and the gameplay is fun. It's just dragged down by the fact that it of course has to be a Gacha game.

@pixel So true for many of these Games. Its just urgh. I avoid them like the plague even if they are good.

@pixel I feel you

@mezzodrinker @pixel yeah same with genshin..

@pixel ye i get that it can be a downer for many players, like gacha games do use preditory means to get players to pay money. but at least the hoyo games are still fine and fun to play without paying. they get more grindy ofc but i have seen gacha games, which were damn near impossible to enjoy without paying.

i agree tho that those games would work much better playing-wise without the gacha mechanics. sadly thats were the money is so i doubt we will not see that go away any time soon

@pixel (and btw this is not a defense for gacha games. i personally also don’t like those practices and see them as the wrong approach. thats also why i don’t really go around and recommend gacha games)

@puniko I understood, so no problem!

It's just sad because the recent ones have absolutely crazy production value. The hub world in ZZZ comes close to what you'd get in Persona games, for example. And the gameplay in itself is good too, I'd like to have it more depth if it was a fully-featured game.

But yeah, it turned me off as soon as it was about leveling agents with 3+ materials. Classic Gacha grind stuff.

@pixel @puniko I do also think that FOMO is a big contributing factor also maybe feeding into gacha too much. Like Timed Events and "character pulls" being timed as well. Plus all those log-in boni and stuff.

@stefan @pixel ye fomo is one of the preditory tactics they use

@stefan @pixel but i have played gachas for quite a while and i know event reruns are a thing, so i don’t lose my pants if i didn’t get a char at the first opportunity, there will be another one some day. like for example, i can’t count how many times there was a timed banner for a certain character in honkai impact. mobius for example had like 3 or 4 reruns during the time i played hi3 and i never really was lucky enough to get her. in the end, i got her through some other event for free

but ye, all that stuff is build in such a way to push you to spend money, with mostly fomo being the most contributing factor. and as bad as it is, it works for them. they get a shitton of money from the whales