does anyone here use libreoffice?

@mischievoustomato I do

ok great. How's scrolling performance for you? For me it's always been laggy and attrocious. On a windows computer (but not comparable because it has a fuckhueg cpu and gpu) it scrolls nicely but on my personal linux laptop (which is not weak at all) it scrolls like shit. I've googled around a lot and people just either seem to have this or the opposite, with no way of fixing

@mischievoustomato Hmm, I've found scrolling to be fine on it personally.

like, say, smooth... like when scrolling on a web browser? 60fps, normal?

@mischievoustomato Yes, it feels pretty smooth yes

it be laggy for me :(

@mischievoustomato RIP

right click -> open in new tab. it's h265 video :/

and yeah, firefox doesn't support even sw decoded h265

@mischievoustomato

cc @mia (since you know about video too)

it seems that obs-vaapi (uses gstreamer) + intel hw encode + h265 + bframes = messed video. For some reason it plays fine under mpv for me, and also totem (which provides the preview on gnome files), but ffplay and ffmpeg bitch and moan

@mischievoustomato on mpv i get broken frames at I-frame interval

and yeah afaik intel hw encoding is quite broken

as for the lag, yeah i get that too when scrolling multi-page documents. perf shows cairo/pixman constantly shuffling around memory so this is basically a consequence of libreoffice being an archaic codebase and cairo (the rendering library it relies on) dropping its unmaintained support for opengl acceleration.

@hor32 @meso

cc @hor32 @meso

@mischievoustomato Apparently VLC doesn't like it either

I wonder what settings it is. h265 + bframes encoded with ffmpeg is fine last time I tried it. it seems it might be an issue with my gstreamer settings or the obs plugin. IDK.

performance

pain. there's a WIP gtk4 libreoffice port in progress, it'd be nice if that thing ended up being smooth

@mischievoustomato honestly i don’t have much hope for libreoffice ever becoming a viable office suite. it’s still just a bad imitation of microsoft office 2000 with stability issues on top of that

yeah but it's ✨ foss ✨

NGL maybe I should get a bottle to run MS Office or actually use OnlyOffice again. I dunno.

@mischievoustomato another alternative is WPS office. it’s made by a chinese company (so internationalization is lacking) and proprietary, but it does have a free linux version that is much faster, more stable, and has and way better support for microsoft’s formats than libreoffice

@mia @mischievoustomato oh mia it is interesting how you would say that. LibreOffice is actually used widely as well. Though that has more legacy-reasons than anything. Tax Offices started with StarOffice a long time ago. I personally used Open Office at work and now LibreOffice. Many of the manual letters are made with LO.

We do also use MS-stuff as well. Like Exchange and Sharepoint. But it is a viable Office Suite. (Also have written my Bachelor with it ⭐)

I would say it is viable its just the world is really ms-centric even in teaching.

Over here, it's funny. Classmates run MS Office (probably everyone pirates it), but my university's computers run Libreoffice (perhaps just temporarily, maybe not, if they depend on having either LO or business-bought MS Office, though it's a state university)

@mischievoustomato Microsoft is actually very interested in capturing that exact audience. They give out MS 365 for many students myself included. You just need to use your provided E-Mail adress to register if your university takes part

@stefan idk if they offer that here