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Yall think bofuri tech that can time dilate while diving enabling working faster that said extra work can be considered crunch?
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with that added context, maybe making bofuri mmo IS feasible, their digital productivity must be insane
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that said the hardcodedish clockspeed of human brains will probably haunt us for a while longer yet, maybe a good thing i go into an adjacent field, incredibly curious
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@desea
Maybe I haven't seen Bofuri recently enough to remember what this is talking about in regards to time dilation.
This is about the anime featuring the main character Maple, correct?

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@Paradox yes, the possibility of having a single day in meatspace cover multiple days in game has staggering implications
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@desea Oh, okay.
I don't actually know if they had 24 hour days in game, though. Timescale is a bit weird in film because a lot of stuff happens off screen but unless you make it clear how much time passed, it gets fuzzy.
It could very well have been two hour gamedays, for all we know.

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@Paradox nono they specifically mention multiday events im p sure with time dilation
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@desea
Hm. Guess I'll have to rewatch.

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@Paradox @desea I am pretty sure it was a thing in the anime and the novels (Though I only read like 3 volumes)

Maple surely is suffering some disconnect from reality after these events. I dunno what these multiday-events in day do to your brain specifically. In small doses you might suffer some sort of "jetlag" since your mind adapted to the shorter durations of the day.

Certainly doing this for long periods would break something. Maybe even your sense of self and what is "real" to you.

The fictional full-dive tech is interesting in that regard. Even after their first event maple is suffering a disconnect. Even though the author shows it in a funny way.

The details are fuzzy though so don't quote me on this lol. But her movement and reflexes would "leak" into the real world. I am pretty certain there was some scene where they played dodgeball at school. She tried blocking with (her non-existant) shield ended up face-tanking the ball instead.

The disconnect might only get stronger with such timewarping going on.

The SAO-incident is a testament to that. Though this one was waaay longer of course. Like these must have had a proper shock awekening after so much time in full-dive. Needed to do rehab first since their physical bodies did not move for so long lol. I won't even imagine the cognitive dissonance there when Maple showed signs of it after such a short time.
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@stefan @desea
By golly I remember none of this. Either my memory sucks with it or it was barely mentioned. XD

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@Paradox @desea It might be me misremembering though btw. It was years I read those books. blobcatsweat
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@Paradox @desea I might check up on stuff once I am home from work though. I really hope I don't misremember lol
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@stefan
I should clarify I only saw the anime.

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@Paradox I figure as much neocat_laugh no worries. Pretty sure these things were touched in the books more or less.

I have a review up for the first volume (one of the rarer ones availiable in english as well but only as video ). The actual source-text was german (by me) so expect some cringy translations by yours truly.

If you like give it a watch;

https://tube.tchncs.de/videos/watch/260da1d7-4b1f-4cae-bd60-005635af556d

https://youtu.be/gAxMxdT6N0c

I dunno if that peertube link will work btw
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@Paradox I will have a look through the books later today I guess. I just vaguely remember it being told somewhen
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@Paradox Reading up on my own review from fucking 4 years ago. Maple was atleast thinking about the game even in school. neocat_laugh
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long post with citations of the bofuri LN Vol. 1-3
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@Paradox Since this won't let me concentrate otherwise. I had to look through my ebooks on the way to work.

There is some nuggets of wisdom in Volume 1 Kaede (alias Maple) getting more into the game:

"She went through the school gates, walked into her class, and sat down in her seat.
Previously, she’d passed the time reading, but since she started playing NewWorld Online, she often spent the time thinking about new skills instead. It was always fun imagining what skills might be out there and what the conditions might be."

This one is from volume 2 and makes clear the disconnect:

"Back in the real world, Kaede checked the time.
“…It really was only two hours!”
It took a physical clock to make that feel convincing.
If she closed her eyes, everything that had happened during the weeklong event came flooding back to her.
So many tough fights. But she and Risa had had a lot of fun together."

Ah yeah I found it in volume 3s prologue:

"Kaede dumped her things on her desk and then went over to where Risa sat.
“Feels like it’s been ages since we last came to school!”
“Right? I mean, we did spend seven days in-game… Which reminds me, Kaede. You’ll need to be careful today.”
“Huh? Of what?”
Kaede couldn’t think of anything particularly concerning.
“In-game, we’ve always gotta be on the lookout for monsters or hostile players. There’s a risk you’ll bring that habit into the real world.”
Risa explained how easy it would be for Maple’s and Sally’s routines to spill over into their regular, everyday lives.
“I’ve been playing awhile, though. Nothing like that’s happened before.”
“Yeah, it’s more of a ‘just in case.’ This is the first time you’ve been logged in for a full week, right?”
“True… All right! I’ll be careful.”

Well it did not go well...

"Because of her restless night, Kaede was nodding off in class. Something she never did.
[...]
At the teacher’s prompting, the girl next to Kaede gave her a poke.
“Mm…mm? Yawn… Is it my turn to keep watch? …Huh?”
Stretching as she spoke, she heard her voice echo in the classroom.
And everyone turned to stare.
By the time Kaede realized where she was, it was too late.
“I warned you,” Risa whispered.
[...]
That was only the first incident of many.
The next came during the break after third bell on her way back from the bathroom.
The halls were packed with students traveling to their next class.
And a girl walking behind Kaede happened to bump into someone trying to pass by. She dropped her textbook and pencil case.
Both hit the ground with a loud clatter.
“……!”
[...]
By this point, her nerves were totally frayed.
Two very public blunders would do that to anyone.

Not wanting to screw up again, Kaede tried to keep a close watch on her every move.
But the third time’s the charm.
The more you try not to mess up, the more likely it becomes.

After lunch, the class was playing dodgeball in the gym.
Kaede and Risa were on the same team.
That fact alone ensured their victory.
No matter how hard they tried, nobody could ever hit Risa.

Even when their opponents aimed all their shots at her, it wouldn’t get them anywhere.
Outside of the VRMMO, there was no compelling reason to pull off risky, last-second evasions, so it was a breeze for Risa to dodge everything.
“She’s incredible in this world, too…,” Kaede muttered.
Of course, if she hadn’t been so caught up watching Risa’s performance, she might have avoided her third horrible mistake.

“…Kaede!”
The enemy team had suddenly decided to aim at someone besides Risa, hoping they might actually knock out a few people.
The ball was already hurtling toward Kaede…
She was much too focused on Risa to react in time.
When Risa yelled, Kaede looked toward the ball—and saw it coming right at her.
On any other day, she’d have ducked or jumped sideways.
But for the past week, she’d avoided projectiles in a very different manner.
“Cover Mo— Eaugh!”
She caught herself mid-yell and clapped her hands over her mouth…meaning she could neither dodge the ball nor catch it.
And hits to the face still counted.
“Kaede?! You okay?!”
“I’m fine…”
From Kaede’s perspective, as long as no one was paying any attention to what she had been about to shout, then she’d live.

From Kaede’s perspective, as long as no one was paying any attention to what she had been about to shout, then she’d live.
The silver lining was that she and Risa were the only ones in class who played NewWorld Online, so apparently, nobody recognized the phrase.
“I’m gonna rest over there…”
“Good idea.”
Kaede slumped against the wall, her head on her knees.
That was her final lapse in judgment.
“…Maybe I should take a break from the game.”
Just to be safe, she decided to not log in at all for three whole days.
Whether because of her ban on gaming or perhaps through sheer force of will, by the third day, Kaede finally stopped having accidents.

Sorry for the slurry of text. But maybe I can concentrate on work now lol
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long post with citations of the bofuri LN Vol. 1-3
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@stefan
I do remember them having this muscle memory habit thing in school with carrying game thoughts and actions to school, but I only remember it being a brief gag.
It is normal for our sense of time to be altered by fun things. Literally, time flies when you're having fun, but I can tell the author tried to impress it that they spent what felt like a week in game and it only took a couple hours.
I'm guessing it either didn't go beyond a multi-paragraph gag in the books and had little bearing on the plot, or they took out something that made a few things confusing.

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re: long post with citations of the bofuri LN Vol. 1-3
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@Paradox I am pretty sure its more a joke than anything. It would fit the show.

Also this is not the author impressing or anything or some "time flies, huh" thingie. In-Game the Event really was a week long with many days and nights ingame.

I can't tell you though how much further the "joke" goes as I did only read 3 volumes so far.
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